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Forum Video Subtitle easySUP & tsMuxer framerate question Thread--> Member hi everybodyI converted an srt file with easySUP and output the sup file with 24.000 fps. When I load the file in tsMuxer it tells me the file is 23,976 fps. When I mux it with the 24 fps video and the audiotrack the subtitle gets out of sync gradually, I checked at the end.Now, I doublechecked that with fps set to 24 in easySUP the subtitles stay in sync. Am I doing something wrong or is this a flaw in easySUP or tsMuxer?Thanks in advanceEnnioEdit: When I export the sub with SubtitleEdit as a BD sup file with 24 fps set, tsMuxer correctly states the fps as 24. After muxing though the subs also get out of sync gradually. I really don't know what's happening here.Anybody?Cheers --> Last edited by Ennio; 28th Jul 2012 at 04:12. Reason: extra info Similar Threads Replies: 3 Last Post: 4th Oct 2011, 08:24 Replies: 7 Last Post: 12th Sep 2011, 11:26 Replies: 0 Last Post: 29th Aug 2009, 06:49 Replies: 2 Last Post: 30th Mar 2009, 04:13 Replies: 6 Last Post: 8th Feb 2008, 12:49 Visit our sponsor! Try DVDFab and backup Blu-rays!

Forum Video Subtitle Correct subtitle bottom offset in tsMuxeR? Thread--> Member I'm using tsMuxeR to mux some files into Blu-ray format. I'm having a hard time discovering the correct offset from the bottom of the screen in the subtitle settings.In the attempts i have made so far, the subtitles seem too far down in position for the aspect ratio of the video (2.35.1). That is to say, they appear in the black bar at the bottom of the screen, rather than over the bottom of the picture the way they do in studio-released Blu-rays. When a character's line is long enough to take up to lines of text, the top line of text is mostly in the picture as opposed to the black bar, while the bottom one is in the black bar as usual (ie, the bottom line is always in the black bar, whether or not there is a second line above it). It appears that the the problem is that offset of 24 pixels that tsMuxeR uses by default is designed for 16:9 video, and thus doesn't look right with 2.35.1. The thing is, I don't know the correct offset to have the subs perfectly aligned for 2.35.1.I wish there was some easy to find "industry standard" of what the size, offset, etc, of subtitles should be for each aspect ratio. Getting subtitles to look just right is a huge pain in the neck. DECEASED If I were you, I would first convert the text-based subtitles into image-based subtitles (.SUP),and only then I would use TSMuxer.tools: easySUP, BDSupEdit, bdsup2sub++ --> Last edited by El Heggunte; 16th Jan 2015 at 02:57. Member Originally Posted by El Heggunte If I were you, I would first convert the text-based subtitles into image-based subtitles (.SUP),and only then I would use TSMuxer.easySUP, bdsupedit, bdsup2sub++ I tried using easySUP once, but had the same problem: I don't know the best settings. (Margin, size, etc).Doesn't tsMuxer convert the SRT subs to SUP while muxing to Blu-ray? DECEASED Originally Posted by hbenthow I tried using easySUP once, but had the same problem: I don't know

Keeps using SubStation Alpha But I myself use neither of them. I convert SRTs to SSAs with an old version of Subtitle Workshop,and then I edit the files manually with a plain-text editor (EditPlus). For testing the results, I use MPC-HC plus the DirectVobSub filter(I don't like the internal subtitle renderer of MPC-HC).FWIW, I prefer 'center-justified Toptitles' (according to the SSA terminology) to 'center-justified Bottomtitles'(which is the "default" way of rendering SRTs). Hopefully the code below will say it all: Code: Line-1 TOPtitle Line-1 TOPtitle Line-2 TOPtitle Line-1 BOTTOMtitle Line-1 BOTTOMtitle Line-2 BOTTOMtitle I strongly disagree with the common idea that a subtitle entry"shall not contain more than two lines of text" Member Originally Posted by El Heggunte It seems most people use Aegisub, AFAIR only manono keeps using SubStation Alpha But I myself use neither of them. I convert SRTs to SSAs with an old version of Subtitle Workshop,and then I edit the files manually with a plain-text editor (EditPlus). For testing the results, I use MPC-HC plus the DirectVobSub filter(I don't like the internal subtitle renderer of MPC-HC). If the results I get from tsMuxeR seem satisfactory, would it be best to just use it, and not bother with standalone subtitle editors?What are the benefits of using SSA, as opposed to SUP (which appears easier to create, via easySUP)?I briefly tried using Aegisub, but couldn't figure out how to convert the subtitles to SSA, or how to adjust their position. DECEASED Originally Posted by hbenthow If the results I get from tsMuxeR seem satisfactory, would it be best to just use it, and not bother with standalone subtitle editors? But of course. What are the benefits of using SSA, as opposed to SUP (which appears easier to create, via easySUP)? I hope you meant "What are the benefits of using SSA, as opposed to SRT"SSA let's you choose multiple colors, multiple fonts and multiple sizes, top subtitles and middle/bottom subtitles at the same time,IF necessary.ASS stands for 'Advanced SubStation (Alpha)', and is recognized by easySUP, therefore no need to convert ASS to SSA. I briefly tried using Aegisub,

The best settings. (Margin, size, etc).Doesn't tsMuxer convert the SRT subs to SUP while muxing to Blu-ray? Yes, TSmuxer converts SRT to SUP, since there cannot be SRT in the TS container...however it was not designed to be a subtitle editor Convert your SRT file to SSA or ASS, and then goto easySUP.Both the SSA and ASS formats give you full-control of the text positioning. --> Last edited by El Heggunte; 16th Jan 2015 at 05:51. Reason: damn old keyboard :-( Member Originally Posted by El Heggunte Originally Posted by hbenthow I tried using easySUP once, but had the same problem: I don't know the best settings. (Margin, size, etc).Doesn't tsMuxer convert the SRT subs to SUP while muxing to Blu-ray? Yes, TSmuxer converts SRT to SUP, since there cannot be SRT in the TS container...however it was not designed to be a subtitle editor Convert your SRT file to SSA or ASS, and then goto easySUP.Both the SSA and ASS formats give you full-control of the text positioning. The problem is not that I don't have control over the text positioning. I do. The bottom offset setting in tsMuxeR and the margin setting in easySUP let me fully control the positioning. I just don't know the right settings to get the position just right.I tried installing Sub-Station Alpha (which you linked to), but it wouldn't install on my computer. I have now installed a program called Convert Srt To Ssa (which I found here: and am now faced with the exact same problem: it has settings to control the position of the subs, but I don't know the right settings. Having full control over the position doesn't help me if I don't know the right position. Member A bit of math (arithmetic):a 2.35:1 aspect on a 1920x1080 BD display gives an "effective" display heigth of 1920/2.35 = 817 pixelleaving black bars of (1080-817)/2 = 131 pixels at top and bottom.Using the default offset of 24 from tsMuxerGUI ours would be 131+24 = 155 pixels which looks something like this muxing a srt fil with tsMuxerGUI.But why you would put